Our death and life in Christ as a historical fact: Part 2

Last Monday I shared two excerpts of scripture that relate to our death in Christ as well as our new life in Him. To recap, here are the excerpts again:

Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. – Romans 6:3-11

I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. – Galatians 2:20

One thing that really sticks out to me in Paul’s letter to the Romans is the vocabulary that he uses. In the above passage from Romans 6, Paul uses past tense vocabulary such as “if we have been united with Him” and “our old self was crucified with Him”. This wording is important because it shows that Paul is talking about past events, this means that our old self being crucified is a past event, something historical that happened long ago. We were crucified when Christ was crucified, we were in Him at the time He was crucified.

In understanding that our death in Christ is something historical that happened in the past our prayers can change from “Lord, please kill me and live through me” to “Lord, help me to remember my place in you, my new nature which is Christ”. Our old man has died and Christ is alive through us. Therefore the problem isn’t that our old man must constantly die but that we must remember that the old man is already dead and Christ is alive in his place and walk in that truth.

You may say, however, that Paul “died daily” therefore death to ourselves is a constant thing, something that happens when we wake up every morning. It’s true, we must die daily and put to death the remnants of our old self. We must submit our desires to the Lord everyday because I for one have a lot of hopes and dreams that may or may not align with God’s vision. Those things must be put to death. But i believe that those things are put death naturally when our mindset and focus is on Christ. As we constantly remember our place in Christ and allow Him to live all else falls away.

So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.

There’s so much more to be said on this topic. The above is simply a starting point, understanding our place in Christ is something that is essential to our life. This is something that the Spirit repeatedly reminds me of so I’m sure more posts will follow on this subject. But above all else, seek God on this matter for yourself. Read the above scriptures in their full context and allow the Holy Spirit to teach you and reveal this to you and your tribe. I know there is a lot more scripture that directly relates to this, what are some that God has used to teach you these things?

Again, I highly recommend that you read The Normal Christian Life by Watchman Nee for more teaching on the subject of our death and life in Christ.

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Why I Haven’t Blogged Since Monday

This will be just a quick update for everyone who has been checking back for the follow up post to Our Death and Life in Christ as a Historical Fact: Part 1 that was posted Monday. I apologize for the delay of the post coming up. My grandpa died this week so we had the showing Wednesday and the funeral was yesterday. Liz and I spent time with family and took a little time to relax as well as I was off of work. However, the funeral was good and God was glorified in what often seems to many people to be an awful and depressing event. I even learned things about my grandpa that I never knew, which was very cool and comforting.The man who led the funeral service is a close family friend and someone who truly loves and wants to glorify Christ. He spoke about how believers should handle death differently than the rest of the world because we have the hope of glory in Christ. He quoted Paul in saying that “to be absent from the body is to be present with Christ”, I fully believe this to be true.

Death is hard for some people to handle, but it’s not an end to a long or short life. Death is the doorway to eternity, it’s a completely new beginning that will never end.

In closing, I hope to have the follow up post to Monday’s blog up soon. It may be up this afternoon, but if not I may even try to do a Saturday post. Thanks again for all your interest in this blog, I can’t wait to talk with everyone some more.

Our death and life in Christ as a historical fact: Part 1

First off, I’m really sorry for the delayed post to any of you who were checking back. Things got super busy and I was unable to get this up until today. I very much appreciate everyone’s interest though and really look forward to continuing this conversation with all of you.

Last week I shared a little bit about my experience from reading The Normal Christian Life by Watchman Nee. I also mentioned that last Thursday’s post would set the stage for today’s. What I want to share today is what I believe to be one of the most important things that I learned from reading The Normal Christian Life, in fact probably one of the most important truths I’ve learned in the whole 22 years I’ve been here. This is a revelation that I believe is a foundational truth when it comes to our life in Christ. This lesson has to do with our death in Christ and that death being a historical fact, an event that has already happened.

Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. – Romans 6:3-11

I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. – Galatians 2:20

Today I just want to leave you with these bits of scripture, they are very big contributions to this conversation on our death and life in Christ and how that is a historical fact, an event that has already happened. I’m going to continue Wednesday and go into what I have learned with other brothers and sisters concerning these verses and this very subject. In the meantime, please consider these excerpts from Paul’s letters and go read them in the full context that they were written in. Also feel free to share your thoughts on this subject and what you’ve learned on your journey.

an experiene of Christ’s life

I’m still so amazed when I experience Christ’s life replacing my flesh in a given situation.

It amazes me how alive and well the Christ is in us. Christ relates to us, reveals things about Himself to us, speaks to us, communes with us, all by His spirit. Yet so many of us don’t know Christ in that way. So often (and for some their entire lives) we think that we have to be listening to a certain type of music or reading the Bible, or in a religious service to experience Christ…well none of that is true. Those ideas are false because they contradict the fact that Jesus Christ is alive and has taken up His residence in us both corporately (the Church) and individually.

Our Lord is not some distant object that we can only touch in certain atmospheres. He all-encompassing, He is all and in all. We walk in both death and life. We walk in the truth that when Christ died, we died with Him. We walk in the truth that when Christ was raised from the dead, we too were raised to that same life through baptism. The same spirit that raised Christ from the dead dwells in us.