Our death and life in Christ as a historical fact: Part 2

Last Monday I shared two excerpts of scripture that relate to our death in Christ as well as our new life in Him. To recap, here are the excerpts again:

Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin. For one who has died has been set free from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. – Romans 6:3-11

I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. – Galatians 2:20

One thing that really sticks out to me in Paul’s letter to the Romans is the vocabulary that he uses. In the above passage from Romans 6, Paul uses past tense vocabulary such as “if we have been united with Him” and “our old self was crucified with Him”. This wording is important because it shows that Paul is talking about past events, this means that our old self being crucified is a past event, something historical that happened long ago. We were crucified when Christ was crucified, we were in Him at the time He was crucified.

In understanding that our death in Christ is something historical that happened in the past our prayers can change from “Lord, please kill me and live through me” to “Lord, help me to remember my place in you, my new nature which is Christ”. Our old man has died and Christ is alive through us. Therefore the problem isn’t that our old man must constantly die but that we must remember that the old man is already dead and Christ is alive in his place and walk in that truth.

You may say, however, that Paul “died daily” therefore death to ourselves is a constant thing, something that happens when we wake up every morning. It’s true, we must die daily and put to death the remnants of our old self. We must submit our desires to the Lord everyday because I for one have a lot of hopes and dreams that may or may not align with God’s vision. Those things must be put to death. But i believe that those things are put death naturally when our mindset and focus is on Christ. As we constantly remember our place in Christ and allow Him to live all else falls away.

So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus.

There’s so much more to be said on this topic. The above is simply a starting point, understanding our place in Christ is something that is essential to our life. This is something that the Spirit repeatedly reminds me of so I’m sure more posts will follow on this subject. But above all else, seek God on this matter for yourself. Read the above scriptures in their full context and allow the Holy Spirit to teach you and reveal this to you and your tribe. I know there is a lot more scripture that directly relates to this, what are some that God has used to teach you these things?

Again, I highly recommend that you read The Normal Christian Life by Watchman Nee for more teaching on the subject of our death and life in Christ.

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4 thoughts on “Our death and life in Christ as a historical fact: Part 2

  1. josephwesley says:

    Quincy,

    Thanks for this post. It’s so crucial to see the facts in the word that we WERE crucified with Christ, and we HAVE BEEN raised with Christ. All of the believers were included in Christ’s death and resurrection. Now, his death and resurrection are accomplished facts for us. I also appreciate this related to John 8:32 because the truth sets us free. For us to know the facts of the truth in the word has an incredible impact on our Christian life.

    I also agree with you that anyone who wants to know more about this should read The Normal Christian Life by Watchman Nee. This particular book has changed more people’s lives than any other book that I know.

    Thanks again!

    Joseph

    • quincyzikmund says:

      Joseph, I couldn’t agree with you more. Knowing Christ and knowing the truth of what He did and how we were involved in that event completely changes our mindset about life in Christ. It makes it clear that life is literally in Christ. Knowing that truth sets us free from condemnation, legalism, ourselves and so much more. I’ve enjoyed dialoguing with you the little we have on here and on twitter, I look forward to more of it.

  2. josephwesley says:

    Quincy,

    I’ve enjoyed our dialogue as well. I’d also like to recommend some free books from Bible’s for America at http://www.bfa.org/books. All of the titles are good, but you might particularly enjoy Basic Elements of the Christian Life and The Glorious Church. I’ve personally read most of the Basic Elements of the Christian Life, and it’s incredible.

    Let me know what you think, and I look forward to more fellowship.

    Joseph

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